Pew poll results on Democratic presidential race

 

Associated Press

 

December 8, 2003

 

By The Associated Press

 

Results of national and state polls on the Democratic presidential race released Monday by the Pew Research Center.    (http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=198)

 

The polls were taken Nov. 18-Dec. 4.

 

The Iowa poll of 394 likely caucus voters has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 6 percentage points. The New Hampshire poll of 585 likely voters, the South Carolina poll of 566 likely voters and a separate national poll of 469 voters who are Democratic or lean Democratic had margins of error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.

 

When results don't total 100 percent, the remainder didn't know or refused to answer.

 

NATIONAL: Howard Dean, 15 percent; Wesley Clark, 15 percent; Dick Gephardt; 12 percent; Joe Lieberman, 12 percent; John Kerry, 6 percent; John Edwards, 5 percent; Al Sharpton, 5 percent; Moseley Braun, 4 percent; Kucinich, 2 percent.

 

IOWA: Dean, 29 percent; Gephardt, 21 percent; Kerry, 18 percent; Edwards, 5 percent, Kucinich, 4 percent; Clark, 3 percent; Lieberman, 1 percent; Moseley Braun, 1 percent; Sharpton, 1 percent.

 

NEW HAMPSHIRE: Dean, 34 percent; Kerry, 20 percent; Clark, 8 percent; Lieberman, 8 percent; Gephardt, 5 percent; Edwards, 4 percent; Kucinich, 1 percent; Moseley Braun, 1 percent; Sharpton, 1 percent.

 

SOUTH CAROLINA: Edwards, 16 percent; Clark, 11 percent; Gephardt, 10 percent; Lieberman, 9 percent; Sharpton, 8 percent; Dean, 7 percent; Kerry, 3 percent; Moseley Braun, 2 percent; Kucinich, 0 percent.

 

 

Final results:

 

December 9th -- Based on poll results, Ted Koppel demanded during a presidential debate he was hosting  that 3 candidates get out of the race saying they had no chance of winning.

 

 

 

National

Iowa

New Hampshire

South Carolina

 

Pew Poll Dec 8

Pew Poll

Dec 8

Actual  caucus delegates

 --Jan 19

Pew Poll Dec 8

Actual Vote

--Jan 27

Pew Poll

Dec 8

Actual Vote

--Feb 3

Howard

Dean

15%

29%

18%

34%

28%

7%

5%

Wesley Clark

15%

3%

0%

8%

13%

11%

7%

Dick Gephardt

12%

21%

11%

5%

withdraw

10%

withdraw

Joe Lieberman

12%

1%

0%

8%

9%

9%

2%

John Kerry

6%

18%

38%

20%

39%

3%

30%

John Edwards

5%

5%

32%

4%

12%

16%

45%

Al Sharpton

5%

5%

0%

1%

0%

8%

10%

Carol Moseley Braun

4%

4%

withdrawn

1%

withdraw

2%

withdraw

Dennis Kucinich

2%

2%

1%

1%

1%

0%

1%

 

 

margin of sampling error

 

            national poll: plus or minus 5 percentage points

 

            Iowa:  plus or minus 6 percentage points 

            New Hampshire: plus or minus 5 percentage points

            South Carolina: plus or minus 5 percentage points

                       

 

On actual election day,

 

(Iowa) They missed:  Edwards by 27 percentage points, Kerry by 20 points, Dean by 11 points, and Gephardt by 10 points.

 

(New Hampshire)  They missed  Kerry by 19 percentage points, Edwards by 8 points.

 

(South Carolina)  They missed Edwards by 29 percentage points, Kerry by 27 points.

 

 

 

 

 

As a pupil, Ted Koppel did not learn very well.  

 

 

 

 

Carol Moseley Braun drops out January 15

 

 

 

Now, keep in mind that a candidate has to get 51% of all the delegates to be nominated.

 

 

 

However, based on the first results, we had the media (and pollsters) declaring that John Kerry was unstoppable early on.

 

 

In the Iowa caucuses, Kerry had 38% of the delegates -- well below the 51% pace needed for nomination.

 

In New Hampshire, he gets 39% of the votes and

 

 

 

Before the day of Super Tuesday, the race was all but over.  In the New York state primary, the remaining candidates did not even run ads in New York City because they could not afford it.  They also did not focus much on California. 

 

However, even at this late date, a review of the actual number of delegates would reveal much different picture than that painted by the media.  Kerry still needed to win 46% of all the remaining delegates -- a pace at which he had

 

 

As of the day of Super Tuesday (March 2), Kerry, the highest Kerry had finished in the popular vote in any of the 17 primaries was 54%.  He had gotten 50% three times and in fully 10 of 17 states, he had gotten between 27% - 47% (an average of only 39%).  

 

This was hardly a landslide.  Even more significantly, the majority of voters indicated their support was soft (easily changeable) -- and most significant of all, the majority of Kerry voters said their choice was based on the fact that he was the candidate Òmost likely to beat Bush.Ó  And that assessment was based  almost entirely on public opinion polls be flaunted by the media.  When asked who they actually preferred, Kerry was not their first choice or often even their second choice.

 

This farce was brought to you by a media that had thoroughly misunderstood public opinion polls.

 

 

Certainty -- prediction and control -- is one of the promises of science.  

 

 

We need to be more honest about the power of public opinion polls -- or more precisely, the power of individual choice.

 

when measuring individual choice -- human being still have will power.

 

However, the charade of being able to predict results creates a bandwagon effect and interferes with democracy. 

 

 

 

 

 

MSNBC/REUTERS ZOGBY IOWA POLL

Four way race: Kerry leads by 1 point

 

1/10-12

1/11-13

1/12-14

Kerry 

17%   

21%   

22%

Dean 

28%  

 24%   

21%

Gephardt 

23%

21%

21%

Edwards 

14%    

15%   

17%

Lieberman 

1%   

1%   

1%

Clark 

2%   

3%   

3%

Kucinich 

3%   

2%   

3%

Sharpton 

.1%   

.1%   

.1%

Braun 

1%  

1%   

1%

Undecided 

12%   

13%   

11%